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Peter Explains the Company's About to Collapse (Full Scene) | Margin Call

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Speaker 1

0:00 Well, sir, as you may or may not know, I work here for Mr. Rogers as an associate in the Risk Assessment and Management Office at mbs.

Speaker 2

0:11 Please, just relax. Stand up. Tell us in a clear voice. What is the nature of the problem?

Speaker 1

0:19 Okay. Well, as you probably know, over the last 36 to 40 months, the firm has begun packaging new MBS products that combine several different tranches of rating classification in one tradable security. This has been enormously profitable, as I imagine you noticed.

Speaker 2

0:43 Aha.

Speaker 1

0:44 Well, the firm is currently doing a considerable amount of this business every day. Now, the problem, which is, I guess, why we are here tonight, is that it takes us, the firm, about a month to layer these products correctly, thereby posing a challenge from a risk management standpoint.

Speaker 2

1:02 And so that challenge is.

Speaker 1

1:04 Well, we have to hold these assets on our books longer than we might ideally like to. Yes, but the key factor here is these are essentially just mortgages. So that has allowed us to push the leverage considerably beyond what you might be willing or allowed to do in any other circumstance, thereby pushing the risk profile without raising any red flags.

Speaker 2

1:26 Now. Thank you, Mr. Holmes. Sit down. What I'm guessing your report here says, and give me some rope here. What I'm guessing it says is that considering that, shall we say, bumpy road we've been on the last week or so, that the figures your brilliant co workers up the line ahead of you come up with don't make much sense anymore considering what's taking place today.

Speaker 1

1:50 Actually, not what's taking place today, but what's already taken place over the last two weeks.

Speaker 2

1:55 So you are saying this has already happened?

Speaker 1

1:58 Sort of.

Speaker 2

2:01 Sort of. And Mr. Sullivan, what does your model say that that means for us here?

Speaker 1

2:09 Well, that's where it becomes a projection.

Speaker 3

2:13 But.

Speaker 2

2:16 You're Speaking with me, Mr. Sullivan.

Speaker 1

2:19 Well, sir, if those assets decrease by just 25% and remain on our books, that loss would be greater than the current market capitalization of this entire company.

Speaker 2

2:37 So what you're telling me is that the music is about to stop and we're gonna be left holding the biggest bag of odorous excrement ever assembled in the history of capitalism?

Speaker 1

3:01 Sir, I'm not sure that I would put it that way. But let me clarify. Using your analogy, what this model shows is the music, so to speak, just slowing. If the music were to stop, as you put it, then this model wouldn't be even close to that scenario. It would be considerably worse.

Speaker 2

3:28 Let me tell you something, Mr. Sullivan. Do you care to know why I'm in this chair with you?

Speaker 1

3:36 All?

Speaker 2

3:36 I mean, why? I earn the big bucks. Yes. I'm here for one reason and one reason alone. I'm here to guess what the music might do a week, a month, a year from now. That's it. Nothing more. And standing here tonight, I'm afraid that I don't hear a thing.

Speaker 2

4:10 Just silence. So now that we know the music has stopped, what can we do about it? Mr. Cohen, Mrs. Robertson. I'm afraid I think this is where you're supposed to step back in.

Speaker 2

4:43 Lord knows we've relied enough on Mr. Sullivan tonight. What do you have for us? What have I told you since the first day you stepped into my office? There are three ways to make a living in this business. Be first, be smarter, or cheat. Now, I don't cheat. And although I like to think we have some pretty smart people in this building, it sure is a hell of a lot easier to just be first.

Speaker 2

5:23 Sell it all. Today. Is that even possible, Sam?

Speaker 3

5:30 Yes. But at what cost?

Speaker 2

5:33 I'll have to pay.

Speaker 1

5:37 Really?

Speaker 2

5:38 I think so. Where is this going to come back to us?

Speaker 3

5:45 Everywhere.

Speaker 2

5:46 Sam, I don't think you seem to understand what your boy here has just said. If I made you, how would you do this?

Speaker 3

6:04 Well, you call the traders in for the normal 6:30 meeting. And you be honest with them, because they're going to know it's the end either way. So you're gonna have to throw him a bone, and a pretty big one. And then you've got to come out of the gate storming. No swaps, no nothing. 40%. Done by 10. 15. By 11 o', clock, all your trades have to be gone, because by lunchtime, word's gonna be out. And by 2o', clock, you're gonna be selling at 65 cents on the dollar, if you're lucky.

Speaker 3

6:30 And then the Feds are gonna be in here up your ass trying to slow you down. Ramesh, they can slow you down. I can't stop you. It's yours to sell. But John, even if we manage to pull that off, and that's saying something, the real question is, who are we selling this to?

Speaker 2

6:50 Same people we've been selling it to for the last two years. And whoever else will buy it.

Speaker 3

6:54 But John, if you do this, you will kill the market for years. It's over. And you're selling something that you know has no value.

Speaker 2

7:06 We are selling to willing buyers at the current fair market price so that we may survive.

Speaker 3

7:15 You will never sell anything to any of those people ever again.

Speaker 2

7:19 I understand.

Speaker 3

7:20 Do you?

Speaker 2

7:21 Do you? This is it. I'm telling you, this is it. Now. It's four o', clock, Jared. You got till five to break this down. Draw me up a plan. Is there anybody else who knows what's in here at the moment, block by block? Eric Dale. And where is he?

Speaker 2

7:53 As of today, he's no longer with the firm. We have been trying to locate him. Carmelo? Yes. Get me Eric dale here by 6:30. It's done. We meet back here in an hour. Sam, let's talk.

Summary

The discussion revolves around the risk management challenges faced by a financial firm dealing with mortgage-backed securities (MBS). As the firm has been packaging and trading these products, the speaker highlights the potential for significant losses if asset values decline, prompting urgent action to mitigate risks.

- The firm has been profitable by combining different tranches of MBS into tradable securities.
- Risk management is challenged by the time it takes to layer these products, leading to prolonged asset holding.
- A 25% decrease in asset value could exceed the firm's market capitalization, indicating severe financial risk.
- The urgency to act is emphasized, with a suggestion to sell all assets quickly to minimize losses.
- Concerns arise about the long-term implications of selling low-value assets and the potential damage to market reputation.
- The need for a strategic plan is highlighted, with a focus on transparency and quick decision-making.
- The conversation underscores the tension between immediate financial survival and long-term market viability.
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