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0:01 we have Nazi and and fascist thrown around in our politics willy-nilly so um it t it is almost always used for people that are on the political right um currently and for since 2016 Donald Trump is the most recent subject of being called a fascist and and a new Hitler we have the same in in Germany everyone who who's not left is uh is far right or is even fascist or nazist this is the same in
0:32 Germany how should I as the American that doesn't know really anything about a history of fascism understand what fascism even means for real fascism is what they had in Italy with musolini so I I wouldn't use it for national socialism uh there these were two very different systems of course they had something in common uh as well communism and national socialism had
1:02 something in common but fascism the WR the system in Italy and national socialism was the system in Germany I understand that musolini had a vision for soci for fascism that ends up sounding like FDR in the United States basically the sort of big government colluding with big corporations in the name of the national interest putting the sort of Corpus or the body of the state first is that how you understand what F Italian fascism
1:33 meant uh yes and in this way it's a little bit similar to national socialism I want to make the point some sometimes people ask me was Hitler a socialist or what is a social system and my answer is yes and no no if you think about traditional socialism because the traditional Socialism or communism they wanted to nationalize all private property that is all state-owned this is
2:05 traditional socialism as they did it in Russia or as they did it in China for example this was not what Hitler wanted uh and not what musolini wanted um they but of course they wanted not capitalism not a free market economy what they wanted is a system like this Hitler said it in one of his speeches he said I will tell the companies what they have to do and what they have to produce and if they say yes we will do it said then I'm
2:35 fine with this then I don't have to do it if they don't do it then I will do it by myself so that means the state so how do you interpret the rhetoric in America around Donald Trump and and the comparisons to Hitler and for someone who's gotten their mind sort of like worked up to thinking we are on the verge of having Hitler 2.0 what do you have to say to them so I want to
3:02 differentiate of course it's always difficult and to compare someone with Hitler because someone who killed six million uh Jewish people started war and if you compare it but of course there are things as you said that are in a way similar and also a little bit uh how Donald Trump thinks about the economy he's not a free market guy for the economy other things a little bit like where I tell the people they what they have to do yes on the other hand Donald
3:32 Trump did some good things some deregulation some lowering taxes because members of his parties one and of course I think in a way he admires people as uh Putin or maybe even from North Korea Kim who he thinks that they are strong but I don't believe that Putin is strong he's not strong Putin is a loser with atomic weapons this is through if you look about the economy even before he started the war the GDP
4:03 from this Russia was less than Italy and this is a biggest uh you know there's no country in the world with so much uh resources and commodities as Russia is and they they depend only on their oil and uh gas as some developing uh countries uh you know do you know any products maybe a little bit in in the militaries but we in Germany we have our cars and so you have your Apple there
4:34 and your Facebook and your Google and also of Chinese they have some great you know compies but which Russian companies do you know bka maybe or so they and they have a PO economy and uh and no one would uh ever listen to someone like Vladimir Putin or Kim in Korea if they didn't have Atomic weapons it's like a little bit in the school yes where you have some really smart intelligent
5:06 people and then you have some who who are only strong this way yes and you have fear from them but only this is the the the only weapon that they have their Force so I don't think that that Putin is he's only in a way strong because he's regressive and he has all this you know weapons but if you don't wouldn't have them he's he's not strong in a way even you know in the I think he has a
5:29 lot of fear because the situation for people in in Russia is really bad and sometimes these dictators they start wars to bring the people in their country together we know it from history there were other cases when a dictator started a war because they were weak inside and it was the only way to bring the the people in the country together but this is the way how I see it I think I I think there's some reason to that
5:59 Donald Trump maybe he has a total different view it's complicated in the United States to speak uh it's another topic about Donald Trump I found it out here when I spoke with the people because most of the people are this way either he's the God if you criticize anything oh no everything is great what Donald Trump does and for others is the evil he evil the devil and when you say but he did some good things he did some
6:26 deregulation everything he did was wrong and if you have like I have a more differentiated position say some things are good that he did sometimes are really crazy in a way it's hard because in the end maybe it will be result now from this interview you have only enemies because the people from you know who who love Trump they say oh he criticized him and the people who are able oh he said something positive about Trump but okay I have allow myself to
6:52 have a more differentiated position so I was actually pleasantly surprised by his presidency in so far as he did a lot more and maybe this was just the people he hired he was more of a traditional Republican in terms of policy than than it looked like he would I think the people of the party the people the donors and people who support him they said you have to bring taxes down and do something dular did some good things but
7:17 I think the difference between Trump and you know I don't want to compare him with Hitler because there are so many things different also Hitler was someone very in um you know with uh he believed in ideology and he had a worldview all of his life it was very consistent what what what what he thought yes this was the ideology he believed in and these people are very very dangerous Trump I think he has no ideology the only thing
7:44 he believes in that is me me me his power yes like how do you maist yes M and opportunist yes it's about power it's about being uh being famous yes it's about and and this things so in some ways these politicians are better than fanatic people with an ideology in some ways they are they are dangerous if you like this clip we've got so much more where that came from so be sure to hit that like button subscribe to the
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Summary
- The terms "Nazi" and "fascist" are often misapplied in modern political discourse, primarily targeting the right.
- Fascism, as seen in Mussolini's Italy, differs significantly from National Socialism in Germany.
- Both fascism and National Socialism rejected traditional capitalism but did not fully embrace state ownership of all property.
- Hitler's economic approach involved directing companies rather than nationalizing them, contrasting with traditional socialism.
- Comparisons between Trump and Hitler are problematic due to the vast differences in ideology and historical context.
- Trump’s leadership style is characterized more by opportunism and personal power than by a consistent ideological framework.
- The speaker acknowledges some positive aspects of Trump’s presidency, such as deregulation and tax cuts, while also recognizing the polarized views surrounding him.
- The discussion highlights the dangers of fanaticism in politics compared to opportunistic leaders who may lack a coherent ideology.