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0:00 - We took a million dollars in funding from a New York venture capitalist, and four years later we had turned that million dollars into $500 million of profits. So it was, I mean, it was a great strategy, it was great people, it was incredible timing and we were really, really lucky, all of that combined. And effectively during that whole period, took no risk. - This is not gonna be the focus of our entire conversation, but for somebody watching this, first of all, it's a 500X return, which is completely crazy.
0:28 - Yeah. - How does that happen? What's the shortest version of how you go from a million to 500? For someone to be like, to understand it. - Yeah, so I'll explain this. Think about the Gulf of Mexico, you're out in the ocean and there's effectively attractive land, just like a piece of real estate, except it's on the ocean floor. You are Exxon. You have the rights to drill on that land for a five year period.
0:54 If you establish production and find oil and gas, you can keep it as long as it produces, otherwise you must give it back. In the heyday of the 1970s and high oil prices, you paid a hundred million for the right to this track. You found 10 million worth of oil and gas, but it's going to cost you 10 million to get it out. So no profit, you're upset you spent a hundred million, oil prices are down and you believe never coming back up.
1:18 And what are you going to do with this expiring lease? So, I show up I've got enough money to drill a well right next to your well, so I know there's $10 million of oil and gas, but I can scrappily put together a platform, not a brand new shiny one, but a used junk-looking platform, but still safe for $5 million. So, I am guaranteed 5 million in profits already, and that's only 50 acres of the 5,000 acre tracks.
1:46 Anything good can happen as long as I hold that track. So we effectively found 19 of those projects. Now how do we find them? Well, all the major oil companies at this point awarded any executive who would retire over the age of 50 a million dollars in cash, like a bonus to retire. - Now you think about that. - But why? What were they doing? - They had too many people. So who retires? Think about that for a second.
2:10 Well, the people who are capable and think they can get another job, leave. But the major organizations have to be fair to everyone so they offer it to everyone. Their best people retire, we go in, hire the chief explorationist for Exxon, and Mobile and Chevron, so we hire one from every major oil company. By the way, they know where all the tracks are. It's not a conflict of interest because the majors want to get rid of the tracks.
2:32 They're best friends all trust in that we won't spill any oil 'cause they're capable. And so here I am at 26 with a lot of 63 year old explorationists working for me that know where all the best tracks are. And all we do is go and drill where oil has already been found, scrappily put together junk platforms and turn them on. And that's how you turn $1 million into $500 million. - Now what was the luck part?
2:58 You said luck. - Well, the luck part was that prices went up. In the meantime, people found production on acreage we held right next door. So it's like Disney World building next to your ranch, suddenly your ranch is worth more. We drilled slightly deeper in some places and found more oil. So effectively, there was, you know, we had very little risk of loss in lots of things that could go right, and all those things went right.
3:22 Prices went up, we found more than we thought, our costs were down. And if you multiply all those together, there's an enormous amount of leverage. So we probably should have made $20 million on our million dollars, but everything went right and so we made 500, and we sold. - At the right time. - That's, I mean, maybe the only smart thing was selling, 'cause I'd been down that rodeo before. Having been raised in oil and gas family I knew that oil prices go up and oil prices go down.
3:51 - What was the lesson there for you? Because you go where you go next is the least obvious place I would think. - Well, I think the biggest lesson from that, the first thing is, of course, I didn't get all 500 million, we had investors, but I had plenty. And someone told me, gave me the best advice I've ever been given, and I do not remember who it is. And I 10 years later I didn't remember, I'd forgotten 'cause it was a passing conversation.
4:17 Someone said, "You should take all that money, all of your profits, and put them in the bank for one year and do nothing, just think about life, because otherwise you're gonna get wrapped up on boards and invited to do things, you're gonna get busy but you're not gonna think about what matters." And so I took that advice. I made a promise to myself I wouldn't, I mean I might buy a new car or something, but I wasn't gonna splurge and I wasn't gonna reinvest.
4:40 And I took all the best materials from the best Harvard Business School courses I had taken, put them together and went to teach a course at the University of Texas socratically, so the Harvard Business School teaches by the Socratic method, you only ask questions to learn. So I basically went to stand in front of a class of MBA graduates, most of 'em are MBA students, most of whom are my age, and ask questions to learn myself about what I should do next.
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Summary
- Secured $1 million in funding and achieved a 500X return over four years.
- Focused on undervalued oil drilling projects in the Gulf of Mexico.
- Employed retired executives from major oil companies to identify profitable tracks.
- Used cost-effective, scrappy drilling platforms to maximize profits.
- Benefited from rising oil prices and successful drilling outcomes.
- Emphasized the importance of timing in selling the investment.
- Took a year off after the success to reflect and plan next steps.
- Utilized the Socratic method to teach and learn from MBA students about future opportunities.